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Food stamp recipients struggle through the month
Associated Press
Originally published 03:00 p.m., May 17, 2008
Updated 03:00 p.m., May 17, 2008
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Danielle Brown stands outside a South Side market at midnight, braving the spring chill for her first chance to buy groceries since her food stamps ran out nearly two weeks ago.
For days, Brown has been turning cans of "whatever we got in the cabinet" into breakfast, lunch and dinner for her children, ages 1 and 3, who finished off the last of the milk and cereal long ago.
"Ain't got no food left, the kids are probably hungry," said Brown, a 23-year-old single mother who relies heavily on her $312 monthly allotment of food stamps a ration adjusted just once a year, in October.
This is what the skyrocketing cost of food looks like at street level: Poor people whose food stamps don't buy as much as they once did rushing into a store in the dead of night, filling shopping carts with cereal, eggs and milk so their kids can wake up on the first day of the month to a decent meal.
Here's what it looks like another way: The number of Americans relying on food stamps has climbed 6.1 percent in the past year, from 26.1 million in February 2007 to 27.7 million in February this year. Every state except for Arkansas and Colorado saw the food stamp rolls increase, led by Nevada and Florida both also hit hard by the housing crisis.
The sputtering economy, persistent unemployment and the mortgage crisis have all contributed to the increase. The U.S. Agriculture Department expects the overall number of participants to reach 28 million next year.
It all paints a picture that experts say is becoming more grim every month.
"People with incomes below the poverty threshold are in dire straits because not only are food prices increasing but the food stamps they are receiving have not increased," said Dr. John Cook, an associate professor at Boston University's medical school who has studied the food stamp program, particularly how it affects children.
On the South Side of Chicago, what it means is that people like Danielle Brown wait for the stroke of midnight, when one month gives way to another and brings a new allotment of food stamps.
Dennis Kladis began opening his family-owned One Stop Food & Liquors once a month at midnight nine months ago to give desperate families a chance to buy food as soon as possible.
"I'm telling you, by the end of the month they're just dying to get back to the first," said Kladis, who has watched other area stores follow his lead. "Obviously, they are struggling to get through the month."
For Lynda Wheeler, who receives $281 in food stamps each month, the rhythm of life has been one of shopping for food, running out of food and turning to churches, food pantries and friends for food. And all the while, she is doing things like cutting milk with water to make it last a bit longer.
"You get it on the first and it runs out by the 14th and 15th," said Wheeler, a single mom who brought her 14-year-old son and 2-year-old daughter shopping at midnight with the Link card, the Illinois version of food stamps.
The consumer price index for food rose 5 percent last year, the highest gain in nearly two decades. It is especially grim news for the poor.
Start with milk. Between March 2007 and this year, a gallon of milk jumped from just over $3 a gallon to nearly $3.80, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. During the same period, eggs climbed from about $1.60 a dozen to $2.20. Meanwhile, everything from white bread to chicken to tomatoes is more expensive than it was last year.
Just last summer, the maximum food stamp payment $542 a month for a family of four with a gross income of no more than $2,238 was enough to cover the USDA's "thrifty food plan," a bare-bones diet that meets minimal nutritional needs. Studies show that allotment now falls about $25 short, Cook said.
Because food stamp allotments are adjusted every fall based on the federal food inflation rate, recipients are months away from getting any relief. But even when that relief comes, advocates say, it won't come close to keeping pace with rising costs.
Meanwhile, demand is growing. The number of U.S. food stamp participants grew by 482,000 between October and February; in the same time period a year earlier, the figure dropped by 135,000.
And just getting to the store is a lot more expensive. Since October, the cost of gas has shot up nationally from $2.70 a gallon to $3.62, according to the Lundberg Survey, a petroleum market research firm. With 31 cents of that jump in the last month alone, Lundberg says there is a good chance the price will top $4 a gallon by the end of the summer.
That means the poor are spending money on gas that they might otherwise have used for food sometimes striking deals with people who have cars to buy them food using the only currency they have.
"Even if they don't have a car, they are using food stamps just to get a ride to the store," said Dan Block, a Chicago State University geography professor who has studied grocery store shopping in Chicago's poorest neighborhoods.
High gas prices were the reason 58-year-old Floyd Ogalvie made the 15-minute trip for the midnight opening this month in his electric wheelchair.
"My old lady, she drives, but she didn't want to drive to save gas," he said.
For starters, gas prices are not part of the equation. USDA spokeswoman Jean Daniel did say that the agency is trying to help and noted recipes for inexpensive meals are posted on the agency Web site.
But she said there is only much food stamp programs can or were meant to do.
"Food stamps were designed to be a supplement to the food budget, (they) were never intended to be the entire budget," she said.
If the USDA pulls $1.7 billion from a contingency fund of $6 billion this year to support the food stamp program, as it expects to do, that would be the largest withdrawal since $2 billion was pulled out after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. The program saw a surge in demand that year as well, with the number of recipients climbing to 27.9 million in October and 29.8 million in November.
On Thursday, the Senate passed a five-year, $300 billion farm bill that includes $200 billion for nutrition programs such as food stamps and emergency food aid for the needy. Daniel said it was too early to say how the at will affect benefits to food stamp recipients and she knew of no provision in the bill to make the annual adjustment before the fall.
In the meantime, there are signs that the same people shopping at midnight on the first of the month may be getting hungrier sooner.
Maura Daly of America's Second Harvest, a national network of food banks, said food banks are seeing a 20 percent increase in the number of people turning to them for help. Much of that increase, she said, comes at month's end.
Diane Doherty, executive director of the Illinois Hunger Coalition, said she's seeing people more frantic for food than ever.
"The level of desperation is just frightening," she said. "People are calling, saying they have no idea what they are going to do."
But even as demand is rising, many food panties nationwide have been forced to cut back on the amount of food given to individual families because higher fuel costs and commodity prices have sliced into private donations to the pantries, Daly and others say.
What that means is the hungry are casting an ever wider net for food, showing up at pantry after pantry.
"We're seeing people come to us from further and further outside our geographical boundaries, (from) as far away as Indiana and southern Wisconsin," said Greg Nergaard, coordinator at Lakeview Pantry on Chicago's North Side. "What they say is they didn't know where else to go."
For now, many of the needy, including many in Kladis' store pushing carts laden with soda pop, bags of cookies and chips much of it cheaper than healthier food are doing what they can to stretch their shrinking buying power.
"The bottom line is, a mother trying to feed her kids is not really picky about what she puts in their bellies," said Dan Gibbons, executive director of the Chicago Anti-Hunger Federation. "She just wants them full."
On the Net:
USDA: http://www.fns.usda.gov/fns
Advocacy groups: http://www.secondharvest.org, http://www.ilhunger.org and http://www.antihunger.org
A history of food stamps in the United States
1939-1943: People buy orange stamps equal to their normal food expenses; for every dollar of orange stamps purchased, they receive an extra 50 cents in blue stamps to purchase surplus food.
1961: President John F. Kennedy signs his first executive order to expand food distribution and announces on Feb. 2 that food stamp pilot programs will be initiated.
1964: The programs expanded from eight areas to 43, with 380,000 people in 22 states participating. President Lyndon Johnson requests that Congress pass legislation making the Food Stamp Program permanent and signs into law the Food Stamp Act of 1964.
1965-1971: The number of people receiving food stamps climbs past 561,000 in 1965, then beyond 1 million in 1966, 3 million in 1969 and 10 million in 1971.
1974: The Food Stamp Program begins operation nationwide July 1.
1988: Development of electronic benefit delivery systems begins, leading to issuance of plastic cards instead of paper food stamps.
2008: The total cost of the program exceeds $33 billion, up from from $2.8 billion three decades ago, and 27.7 million people participate as of February.
Source: United States Department of Agriculture.
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related links Posted by 254809 on May 17, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.
The sputtering economy???
In April Only, Americans spent 1.23 BILLION on gaming systems....up 47% from last year....(look this up on foxnews.com)......and in the first weekend, Iron Man made $100 MILLION PLUS!!!! And today, I could not find a parking spot at my local mall(I live outside of CC)....sputtering economy....please...
Persistent unemployment ???
Unemployment is actually down at this time....
The mortgage crisis???
Those ARM Mortgages are only 3% of ALL mortgages in the US...
Give me a break......people just need to get off their lazy butts and get a job....quit having kids that THEY CAN NOT afford....stop buying $100 shoes and $300 purses....I can go on and on...
PS. Ms. Brown said "Ain't got no food left, the kids are probably hungry,".....you should of said, "I have no food left...." .....please learn to speak correctly, then maybe you can will be able to get a decent job....
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related links Posted by 348998 on May 17, 2008 at 3:33 p.m.
In Corpus she would have just sold her food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar to buy booze and drugs. It happens everyday!
P.S. Don't complain about something you are getting for free.
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 17, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.
in response to 254809
AMEN! I like what the article said about food stamps being designed to supplement the food bill not cover the entire thing.
These people, especially the young ones and those who are not physically disabled, should be ashamed of themselves. Grocery carts full of soda pop and chips?!?! What happened to kool-aid?? What about top roman noodles???
Quit having kids you can't afford and work and get a part time job if you need to.
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related links Posted by 454522 on May 17, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.
You all need to think about it. One day it could be you on food stamps. We should not make fun of people on food stamps, we all are going in that direction. The food stamp program is a wonderful program. I am a single mom on looking in to food stamps, are you going to make fun of me ?
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related links Posted by 248355 on May 17, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
in response to 254809
"PS. Ms. Brown said 'Ain't got no food left, the kids are probably hungry,'.....you should of said, 'I have no food left....' .....please learn to speak correctly, then maybe >you can will be able< to get a decent job...."
Perhaps, you might heed your own advice and learn how to write correctly. Just a suggestion.
-dave
a.k.a. the grammar police
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related links Posted by 234453 on May 17, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
in response to 454522
I personally do not make fun of those who truly need temporary assistance. What I do make fun of, turn my nose up at, etc., are: those who sell their Lone Star cards for 50 cents on the dollar for drug money; those who abuse the system by continuing to have children they cannot afford to feed and take care of; and the sterotype we have all seen that buys food with the Lone Star Card and then loads it into a late model Lincoln or Cadillac.
If a person uses food stamps as a step up out of poverty or a bad situation - more power to them, but those families who spend a lifetime in the system and spread the "why work" mentality to the next generation - yes I have a serious problem with that.
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related links Posted by 710826 on May 17, 2008 at 5:24 p.m.
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You are right, absolutely right.
There is a lot to the saying "there but for the grace of God, go I".
There are some things that you can do in the interim to help. You mention being a single mom, are your child or children receiving proper child support, there are laws that can and will help with this?
Please do look into the many organizations in Corpus Christi that can lend a helping hand and I repeat, helping hand, not a handout that will make you feel as if you are losing your self respect and have to be concerned with " I am a single mom on looking in to food stamps, are you going to make fun of me ?"
God help and God bless.
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related links Posted by 254809 on May 17, 2008 at 5:28 p.m.
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thanks for the correction.....
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related links Posted by 348998 on May 17, 2008 at 5:34 p.m.
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I will make fun of you.
I grew up with two other siblings and a single mom she worked liked crazy, we wore cheap clothes and did not own a television. She tought me that although it easy if you work hard you can make it your own.
Get a second a job and teach your kids some character.
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related links Posted by 425944 on May 17, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.
I know a fellow that said he was going to buy T-bone steaks with the last of his food stamps. Now he's a nice enough guy, but he was going to buy steaks for him and his friends.
I just shook my head in dismay.
My family makes pretty good money, but we only buy T-bone steaks when there is a special occasion. At 7 dollars a steak for 4 people and the high price of propane or charcoal brickets to cook them, well, people who are on the welfare program should be spending their government handout more wisely.
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related links Posted by 711310 on May 17, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.
Before she decided to have those children, it would have been nice if she had asked me if I minded supporting them for her.
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related links Posted by 241057 on May 17, 2008 at 5:44 p.m.
There are places to go get food for free. Nobody has to starve to death. Check out community kitchens.
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 17, 2008 at 5:59 p.m.
Kudos to the USDA spokesperson -- she wz quoted as saying the Food Stamp program was meant to supplement NOT BE THE ENTIRE FUNDING FOR FOOD.
The government is an enabler. More and more people think the government/state is obligated to help. I can understand if a TAXPAYER falls on bad times, for ex: get sick, get laid off on so on. But to have 4 kids by 3 daddies and/or live with your baby daddy or worse their grandma WTF?
I think if you get funding and are a single parent, #1 you need to practice birth control, and if you can't get sterilized, because I have only 2 children because guess what??? it is expensive--- so if i can practice birth control federal receipents should be mandated too.
Also federal receipients should be able to get their funding after they prove they have a full time job and/or school 12hrs mininum. My mother worked and went to school at night and we did not have federal asistance. We learned not to ask for anything, we knew food and bills came 1st. Once we turned 16 we got a job and helped out like real families should.
so saying you are single parent is a cop out....not a good excuse.
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related links Posted by 447776 on May 17, 2008 at 6:17 p.m.
Gee, I have to pinch pennies when I go to the grocery store too. Oh yeah, I also have to go to work every day too. Sorry, not feeling sorry for the stampheads. All you single moms out there made the concious decision to sleep with the "fathers" of your kids. I had nothing to do with it so why should I have to pay for your mistake. When I make a mistake I have to pay for it myself. Go get a second job and take care of your kids. Call me cold and heartless but I've seen too many people buying crablegs and steaks with lone star cards. Screw that.
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related links Posted by 704275 on May 17, 2008 at 7:59 p.m.
When my husband turned into a drug addict, I had no choice but to leave, go on food stamps and go back to college. After college, I got a good job and got off food stamps.....Temporary and supplemental are the key words. Most women who receive food stamps are also eligible for WIC....WIC controls exactly what you can buy with their vouchers. You get milk, cheese, juice, eggs, and cereal on WIC. In addition, they give you baby formula and baby food.
I do agree that the deadbeats need to get a job!
As far as child support, it can be drawn up....enforcement is a different matter. I am currently owed $15,000 for one child. The Attorney General can't do much because my ex moved out of state. When they locat him at a job to garnish, he quits. He hasn't filed taxes in several years because they garnish his tax returns for his child. If they can't be served, then the AG can't take them to court. The AG is lame!
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related links Posted by 711040 on May 17, 2008 at 8:11 p.m.
I'm surprised. There seems to be a lot of intelligent people commenting on this article. I figured that there would be a bunch of liberal cry babies blaming Bush and everyone else for the higher price of food.and the condition that the stamp holders find themselves in. I retired after taking care to save a few dollars and plan how I would live on my fixed income. The higher prices for food is a problem, but I know I will find ways to deal with it without crying to a liberal government for help.
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related links Posted by 230619 on May 17, 2008 at 8:11 p.m.
Post 454522- If you are looking at getting food stamps, why is your lazy butt using a computer to blog when you should be looking for a second or third job. If you need more than three jobs to support yourself, you either eat too much or you shouldn't have had that many kids.
Why hasn't anyone blamed Bush yet?
Vote Democrat: It's easier than working!
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related links Posted by 253187 on May 17, 2008 at 9:05 p.m.
The problem with buying junk food because it is cheaper...is that it doesn't satisfy hunger or nutrition. I can eat a whole bag of Oreos and not feel full! In the article, it mentioned that she has a cart full of junk. In the long run, this doesn't pay off because the family eats junk quick and goes looking for more.
Maybe, some education before giving the food stamps. A film, class, etc.
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related links Posted by 463342 on May 17, 2008 at 9:17 p.m.
I dont feel sorry for "poor" people. There are no poor people here. Just irresponsible, or lazy people here. The people who claim to be poor are rich compared to people who are really starving around the world.
I was "poor" once. I was being irresponsible and had no job, no money, no food, no car. But because I was white, and a male, they denied me any sort of food stamps, or help of any kind. What does that tell you about the people complaining that the welfare that they get is not enough.
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related links Posted by 454522 on May 17, 2008 at 10:33 p.m.
post 253187- For your information I do work 3 jobs. I work full time, clean a church and clean people's house's. how do you like that. i also desire so time with my 9 month old. so you get a life. it's none of your business how many children i have. you must not have any thing to do. so their back off single mother's.
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related links Posted by 711762 on May 17, 2008 at 11:01 p.m.
It makes me sick! Most of the people you see using food stamps then pull out a wad of money to pay for other stuff it does not cover. Then out in the parking lot they get in a 08 lincoln or some other high end vehicle. Its just like anything else, if you know someone who works at these agencies you can get all the free money us hard working taxpayers have to pay. They should cancel welfare and food stamps and then maybe these lazy bums would have to get a job.
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related links Posted by 448291 on May 17, 2008 at 11:36 p.m.
There are one out of ten people working that get food stamps. I work two jobs and make $35,000 and I'm having a hard time making ends met. SO, for you cry baby's food stamp people. You need to stop bit----- and stop having kids so you can get more $$$$$$$$ on your food stamp card and go get a JOB. "O" buy the way- I would not even think of getting food stamps. I'm not a low life, like the nine non-working low life bit----- cry baby's. and driving a $40,000 plus car or truck with FIVE very very FAT overweight plus crying kids getting in eating candy. There is a job out there for you. All you have to do is get you overweight butt out there and find it.
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related links Posted by 252944 on May 17, 2008 at 11:43 p.m.
People make a carreer of the food stamp programs. I think they should only allow them help for 6 months. My husband and I spend 200 a wk buying groceries. It upsets me when people stare at my cart as if I was paying with Lone Star. Fortunately we both work and are able to provide for our kids. Some of these loosers have boyfriends going grocery shopping with them and buy the most expensive meats when we have to settle for chicken and ground beef at times. The government needs to put a stop to this. I feel for the children, but not for the lazy mothers and fathers who depend on the system!!
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 12:28 a.m.
Think Money Buys Happiness?
Now, We Meet The Real Losers.
Quit whining and do something about it
and while yall are talking bout welfare why not address the corporate welfare, the fraud and the corruption transacting as we speak right here in South Texas. Go after someone who legally robs the Taxpayers exponentially compared to allof the FS clients combined.
You guys sound like a bunch of hypocrites
Are You Haters Having Fun Yet?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
LOL ;)
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related links Posted by 248355 on May 18, 2008 at 3:22 a.m.
in response to 254809
You are very quite welcome.
Two of my stupid pet peeves are misspellings and grammatical errors.
-dave
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related links Posted by 245502 on May 18, 2008 at 3:47 a.m.
I would think you'd be more interested in the content of the post as opposed to checking for grammatical and spelling errors.
Oh..and btw.."very quite" welcome?
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related links Posted by 711521 on May 18, 2008 at 4:58 a.m.
Get over the critical pet peeves. Not all readers have the background you do Dave. You endup being very haughty and demeaning to those just attempting to simply express themselves.
I agree about people abusing the food stamp system. These people can eat steak all month long. I don't use food stamps and generally eat only one meal per day. I budget what I eat and purchase cheaper items frequently. Prices are rising and the easy street is running out. Get a job and take birth control! or better yet get neutered.
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related links Posted by 233751 on May 18, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.
The Lone Star card should have limitations on what it can purchase just like the WIC program. Staples like bread, milk, pasta, beans, veggies, certain cheeses and meats would be allowed. No cookies, sodas, chips, high end meats and cheeses. This would stop much of the abuse. Our system has the technology to do this now and no one is complaining about the WIC system, it works!
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related links Posted by 276111 on May 18, 2008 at 8:14 a.m.
I saw a couple buy groceries with a lone star card then loaded it up on a full dress Harley which cost at least $22,000 and was a newer model. Geez!!!! Shared prosperity at its finest. Darn democrats!!!!!
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related links Posted by 245313 on May 18, 2008 at 8:26 a.m.
I am so disheartened to read the comments posted here. So quick to judge, so quick to condemn, so quick to know it all. Must feel very proud of yourselves because everything YOU do is right....just because YOU do it means everyone else can or should. Get a grip people! I have some advice for you....if it upsets you to see the person in front of you in the grocery line using a Lone Star card, look the other way! Not all "poor" people are lazy, welfare cheating, abusers of the system....many have happened along something called LIFE! Instead of being so quick to condemn, try reaching out a helping hand. Truly, if this is how some of you really think, I pity the day for you that Jesus Christ comes back to this earth!
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related links Posted by 246009 on May 18, 2008 at 8:53 a.m.
The need to get J-O-B and stop making a way of life of all the freebies the government offers. There are plenty of jobs out there, it may not be "exactly" what you want to do but it's a job. You choose the path you want to go. Everyone has the same opportunity to succeed in life, IF they choose. Along with all the freebies are grants for a better education. Do something about it.
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related links Posted by 408032 on May 18, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.
There is nothing wrong with the food stamp program. To me that is just free money. The goverment takes my money in taxes and I just get it back in a lonestar card. My family has survived many decades on food stamps and will continue to survive for more years to come.
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related links Posted by 260556 on May 18, 2008 at 11:05 a.m.
I'm not about to bash all those food stamp recipients out there, BUT I am about to bash the ones who are receiving them by deceiving the system. I'm all for some people getting them when they are in need. (It doesn't matter how many kids or if you're a single parent ) BUt I've seen so many young ( late teens to early 40s) just so happy to be on the system. They are content for all the freebies they get. I know someone who receives about 300 a month (for one 2 yr old) PLus her 2 bdrm apt is only $50 a month. Not to mention a decreased rate for her electricity. This person is only 21yrs old. C'mon, at that age you're old enough to get a job and make a better life for yourself. (Did I mention since she's not married, she conveniently has her "working" boyfriend live with her and they have all of his income to spend on anything. This is the type of stuff that is WRONG!!! If the government increases the amount of food stamps, then they need to increase the minimum wage rate for ALL hard working individuals!!! What do ya'll think?
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related links Posted by 244675 on May 18, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
This is a classic vicious circle. The more people on welfare programs, the more difficult it is to introduce any sort of welfare reform. Most of these folks would probably never bother to vote unless it's against a candidate proposing government assistance limitations. I'm all for helping people get out of a tough situation; I was in a bad way after my now ex-wife racked up 10K in credit card debt behind my back then took off with no intention of paying any of it. It was a struggle, but I sacrificed and got through it without gov't assistance or destroying my credit, now I'm doing fine. Career welfare is inexcusable and those who practice it should be ashamed. This is supposed to be the land of opportunity, not the endless free lunch.
Oh, and the previous poster who said it was none of our business how many kids she/he has, business is defined as the transfer of funds for goods or services. If my funds (taxes) are used to help support children you can't afford, that makes it my business to a degree. If you don't rely on the gov't then have all the kids you want. Otherwise deal with the consequences on your own, especially the folks who continue to have more children while already on the dole.
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related links Posted by 234453 on May 18, 2008 at 12:04 p.m.
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And just how much have you paid in taxes as opposed to how much you scammed the government out of during those decades you are so proud of? You are a classic example of what is WRONG with the system!
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 18, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.
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If you are receiving federal assistance - Medicaid to deliver the baby and get prenatal care, WIC, Lone Star Card then I hate to burst your bubble it is MY business, no let me correct myself it is EVERYONE's business how many children you have.
If you receive no assistance, be my guest and pop those puppies out. Otherwise get your tubes tied, get some job training and get a job so you and others like you can be SELF-SUFFICIENT and hopefully stop the "cycle" of poverty your children will be repeating.
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 18, 2008 at 2:05 p.m.
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Food stamp program is NOT free, you are abusing taxpayer dollars... and I doubt you contributed into the "system" more than you are taking out.
Lone Star is supposed to be TEMPORARY-- not a way of life. If you were surviving, you would not need the Lone Star card, you would be "surviving" on your own.. but losers like you will continue to drain the "system" and people that really need it get the bad rap.
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related links Posted by 233913 on May 18, 2008 at 2:19 p.m.
We could hire a bunch of retiree's to work part time for the government to supplement their social security ... and there only job would be to do investigative work on every food stamp and welfare recipient to see, what kind of car do they own, what have they purchased over the time period that they have been on welfare and handouts, who are they really living with - is there an income earner living in their home.... did they use the food stamps or sell them for cash to that Harley person.. so they could buy cigarettes and beer?... and if the answer is that they are an abusive, bottom feeder... living off our tax dollars while making no effort to be responsible for themselves... then cut them off. It would be money well spent.
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related links Posted by 699932 on May 18, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.
My income is close to 45K yearly- My daughter and I eat Banquete meals and Ramen Soup and we use tuna quite frequently. My daughter and I eat out either Friday or Saturday to rest from homecooked meals. Sunday we start all over again with simple foods and we eat out of napkins most times. My water bill doesnt shock me anymore. I like expensive clothing and expensive shoes and jewelry and I have a love for my expensive vehicle(paid in full). My daughter makes excellent grades all year so with her allowance she saves it for whatever she desires, which is Rock N Roll band t-shirts.
We have never ever asked for any governent handouts whatsoever and quite frankly- most of these people who are receiving food stamp vouchers I would like to think the great majority do temporary.For those who use the system and live off the government are those who are apparently lazy and have never been caught. The last time I ate steak was about three weeks ago! Lobster- whats that? My daughter and I survive just fine without expensive meals.My grocery bill makes me smile! Anyone need lessons on how to stretch a buck? Let me know, I have tons of reciepes ( providing you like tuna that is) lol
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
Yeah right you got the idea,
"We could hire a bunch of retiree's to work part time for the government to supplement their social security ... and their only job would be to do investigative work on every Corporate Executive and Corporate Welfare recipient to see what kind of Boards they sit on, what kind of Property they own, what kind of Property their family owns and when and where in the hell did they get that crystal ball from? How many grants and non competing contracts have they received and the commonality amongst them all. Lets not forget the business expenses and the petty cash. What have they purchased over the time period that they have been on Corporate Welfare and / or receiving Government Contracts, Non competing "Business" handouts, What is the actual value of their home (not the appraised one), is their property tax appropriate for the actual value of their home, who are they really sleeping with - .... did they abuse or peddle their influence or for undisclosed amounts of cash under the table? How many times government grants included or paid for whiskey and women? And if the answer is that they are an abusive, bottom feeder... living off our tax dollars while making no effort to be responsible for themselves... then fine the heck out of them. It would be money well spent."
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related links Posted by 711504 on May 18, 2008 at 7:06 p.m.
I wish that I had $312 a month of FREE food for my family!
I struggle to pay my taxes, earn a living and get by on about $175 a month of food for a family of four. Thank God for Angel Food!
I really have NO SYMPATHY for those welfare addicts who milk the government for as many handouts as Barack Hussein Obama and his wicked racist minions will give in exchange for votes!
If you want to eat more -- GET A JOB!!!!
Oh wait...welfare recipients eat better than most teachers!!!!
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 7:31 p.m.
Go wait in the lines, go through the application specificities, allow yourself to be jerked around by the program administration and then comeback and tell us how lucrative & "free" the Welfare Program is.
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 10:40 p.m.
Why be a teacher if you have this bias against people who are "welfare" addicts as you claim?
It is teachers like you who have no intention of allowing a "welfare" student to succeed.
What kind of teacher are you?
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 18, 2008 at 11:52 p.m.
I wondered how many participants in the Buc parade this year use the Lone Star card. Especially the low rider cars with the girls up front and the kid(s) on their lap. I couldn't help but shake my head in disgust. Your tax dollars that provide free grocery money in the form of Lone Star cards, medical and dental insurance (Medi-caid) and WIC also probably helped provide those daddies all the cash they needed to pimp their rides.....
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 19, 2008 at 12:46 a.m.
All you fretting about what others got, know that the insurance company that charges you for health insurance is subsidized by the poor people.
Look it up.
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related links Posted by 254809 on May 17, 2008 at 3:18 p.m.
The sputtering economy???
In April Only, Americans spent 1.23 BILLION on gaming systems....up 47% from last year....(look this up on foxnews.com)......and in the first weekend, Iron Man made $100 MILLION PLUS!!!! And today, I could not find a parking spot at my local mall(I live outside of CC)....sputtering economy....please...
Persistent unemployment ???
Unemployment is actually down at this time....
The mortgage crisis???
Those ARM Mortgages are only 3% of ALL mortgages in the US...
Give me a break......people just need to get off their lazy butts and get a job....quit having kids that THEY CAN NOT afford....stop buying $100 shoes and $300 purses....I can go on and on...
PS. Ms. Brown said "Ain't got no food left, the kids are probably hungry,".....you should of said, "I have no food left...." .....please learn to speak correctly, then maybe you can will be able to get a decent job....
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related links Posted by 348998 on May 17, 2008 at 3:33 p.m.
In Corpus she would have just sold her food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar to buy booze and drugs. It happens everyday!
P.S. Don't complain about something you are getting for free.
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 17, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.
in response to 254809
AMEN! I like what the article said about food stamps being designed to supplement the food bill not cover the entire thing.
These people, especially the young ones and those who are not physically disabled, should be ashamed of themselves. Grocery carts full of soda pop and chips?!?! What happened to kool-aid?? What about top roman noodles???
Quit having kids you can't afford and work and get a part time job if you need to.
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related links Posted by 454522 on May 17, 2008 at 4:40 p.m.
You all need to think about it. One day it could be you on food stamps. We should not make fun of people on food stamps, we all are going in that direction. The food stamp program is a wonderful program. I am a single mom on looking in to food stamps, are you going to make fun of me ?
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related links Posted by 248355 on May 17, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
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"PS. Ms. Brown said 'Ain't got no food left, the kids are probably hungry,'.....you should of said, 'I have no food left....' .....please learn to speak correctly, then maybe >you can will be able< to get a decent job...."
Perhaps, you might heed your own advice and learn how to write correctly. Just a suggestion.
-dave
a.k.a. the grammar police
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related links Posted by 234453 on May 17, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
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I personally do not make fun of those who truly need temporary assistance. What I do make fun of, turn my nose up at, etc., are: those who sell their Lone Star cards for 50 cents on the dollar for drug money; those who abuse the system by continuing to have children they cannot afford to feed and take care of; and the sterotype we have all seen that buys food with the Lone Star Card and then loads it into a late model Lincoln or Cadillac.
If a person uses food stamps as a step up out of poverty or a bad situation - more power to them, but those families who spend a lifetime in the system and spread the "why work" mentality to the next generation - yes I have a serious problem with that.
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related links Posted by 710826 on May 17, 2008 at 5:24 p.m.
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You are right, absolutely right.
There is a lot to the saying "there but for the grace of God, go I".
There are some things that you can do in the interim to help. You mention being a single mom, are your child or children receiving proper child support, there are laws that can and will help with this?
Please do look into the many organizations in Corpus Christi that can lend a helping hand and I repeat, helping hand, not a handout that will make you feel as if you are losing your self respect and have to be concerned with " I am a single mom on looking in to food stamps, are you going to make fun of me ?"
God help and God bless.
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related links Posted by 254809 on May 17, 2008 at 5:28 p.m.
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thanks for the correction.....
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related links Posted by 348998 on May 17, 2008 at 5:34 p.m.
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I will make fun of you.
I grew up with two other siblings and a single mom she worked liked crazy, we wore cheap clothes and did not own a television. She tought me that although it easy if you work hard you can make it your own.
Get a second a job and teach your kids some character.
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related links Posted by 425944 on May 17, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.
I know a fellow that said he was going to buy T-bone steaks with the last of his food stamps. Now he's a nice enough guy, but he was going to buy steaks for him and his friends.
I just shook my head in dismay.
My family makes pretty good money, but we only buy T-bone steaks when there is a special occasion. At 7 dollars a steak for 4 people and the high price of propane or charcoal brickets to cook them, well, people who are on the welfare program should be spending their government handout more wisely.
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related links Posted by 711310 on May 17, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.
Before she decided to have those children, it would have been nice if she had asked me if I minded supporting them for her.
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related links Posted by 241057 on May 17, 2008 at 5:44 p.m.
There are places to go get food for free. Nobody has to starve to death. Check out community kitchens.
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 17, 2008 at 5:59 p.m.
Kudos to the USDA spokesperson -- she wz quoted as saying the Food Stamp program was meant to supplement NOT BE THE ENTIRE FUNDING FOR FOOD.
The government is an enabler. More and more people think the government/state is obligated to help. I can understand if a TAXPAYER falls on bad times, for ex: get sick, get laid off on so on. But to have 4 kids by 3 daddies and/or live with your baby daddy or worse their grandma WTF?
I think if you get funding and are a single parent, #1 you need to practice birth control, and if you can't get sterilized, because I have only 2 children because guess what??? it is expensive--- so if i can practice birth control federal receipents should be mandated too.
Also federal receipients should be able to get their funding after they prove they have a full time job and/or school 12hrs mininum. My mother worked and went to school at night and we did not have federal asistance. We learned not to ask for anything, we knew food and bills came 1st. Once we turned 16 we got a job and helped out like real families should.
so saying you are single parent is a cop out....not a good excuse.
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related links Posted by 447776 on May 17, 2008 at 6:17 p.m.
Gee, I have to pinch pennies when I go to the grocery store too. Oh yeah, I also have to go to work every day too. Sorry, not feeling sorry for the stampheads. All you single moms out there made the concious decision to sleep with the "fathers" of your kids. I had nothing to do with it so why should I have to pay for your mistake. When I make a mistake I have to pay for it myself. Go get a second job and take care of your kids. Call me cold and heartless but I've seen too many people buying crablegs and steaks with lone star cards. Screw that.
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related links Posted by 704275 on May 17, 2008 at 7:59 p.m.
When my husband turned into a drug addict, I had no choice but to leave, go on food stamps and go back to college. After college, I got a good job and got off food stamps.....Temporary and supplemental are the key words. Most women who receive food stamps are also eligible for WIC....WIC controls exactly what you can buy with their vouchers. You get milk, cheese, juice, eggs, and cereal on WIC. In addition, they give you baby formula and baby food.
I do agree that the deadbeats need to get a job!
As far as child support, it can be drawn up....enforcement is a different matter. I am currently owed $15,000 for one child. The Attorney General can't do much because my ex moved out of state. When they locat him at a job to garnish, he quits. He hasn't filed taxes in several years because they garnish his tax returns for his child. If they can't be served, then the AG can't take them to court. The AG is lame!
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related links Posted by 711040 on May 17, 2008 at 8:11 p.m.
I'm surprised. There seems to be a lot of intelligent people commenting on this article. I figured that there would be a bunch of liberal cry babies blaming Bush and everyone else for the higher price of food.and the condition that the stamp holders find themselves in. I retired after taking care to save a few dollars and plan how I would live on my fixed income. The higher prices for food is a problem, but I know I will find ways to deal with it without crying to a liberal government for help.
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related links Posted by 230619 on May 17, 2008 at 8:11 p.m.
Post 454522- If you are looking at getting food stamps, why is your lazy butt using a computer to blog when you should be looking for a second or third job. If you need more than three jobs to support yourself, you either eat too much or you shouldn't have had that many kids.
Why hasn't anyone blamed Bush yet?
Vote Democrat: It's easier than working!
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related links Posted by 253187 on May 17, 2008 at 9:05 p.m.
The problem with buying junk food because it is cheaper...is that it doesn't satisfy hunger or nutrition. I can eat a whole bag of Oreos and not feel full! In the article, it mentioned that she has a cart full of junk. In the long run, this doesn't pay off because the family eats junk quick and goes looking for more.
Maybe, some education before giving the food stamps. A film, class, etc.
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related links Posted by 454522 on May 17, 2008 at 10:33 p.m.
post 253187- For your information I do work 3 jobs. I work full time, clean a church and clean people's house's. how do you like that. i also desire so time with my 9 month old. so you get a life. it's none of your business how many children i have. you must not have any thing to do. so their back off single mother's.
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related links Posted by 711762 on May 17, 2008 at 11:01 p.m.
It makes me sick! Most of the people you see using food stamps then pull out a wad of money to pay for other stuff it does not cover. Then out in the parking lot they get in a 08 lincoln or some other high end vehicle. Its just like anything else, if you know someone who works at these agencies you can get all the free money us hard working taxpayers have to pay. They should cancel welfare and food stamps and then maybe these lazy bums would have to get a job.
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related links Posted by 448291 on May 17, 2008 at 11:36 p.m.
There are one out of ten people working that get food stamps. I work two jobs and make $35,000 and I'm having a hard time making ends met. SO, for you cry baby's food stamp people. You need to stop bit----- and stop having kids so you can get more $$$$$$$$ on your food stamp card and go get a JOB. "O" buy the way- I would not even think of getting food stamps. I'm not a low life, like the nine non-working low life bit----- cry baby's. and driving a $40,000 plus car or truck with FIVE very very FAT overweight plus crying kids getting in eating candy. There is a job out there for you. All you have to do is get you overweight butt out there and find it.
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related links Posted by 252944 on May 17, 2008 at 11:43 p.m.
People make a carreer of the food stamp programs. I think they should only allow them help for 6 months. My husband and I spend 200 a wk buying groceries. It upsets me when people stare at my cart as if I was paying with Lone Star. Fortunately we both work and are able to provide for our kids. Some of these loosers have boyfriends going grocery shopping with them and buy the most expensive meats when we have to settle for chicken and ground beef at times. The government needs to put a stop to this. I feel for the children, but not for the lazy mothers and fathers who depend on the system!!
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 12:28 a.m.
Think Money Buys Happiness?
Now, We Meet The Real Losers.
Quit whining and do something about it
and while yall are talking bout welfare why not address the corporate welfare, the fraud and the corruption transacting as we speak right here in South Texas. Go after someone who legally robs the Taxpayers exponentially compared to allof the FS clients combined.
You guys sound like a bunch of hypocrites
Are You Haters Having Fun Yet?
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
LOL ;)
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related links Posted by 248355 on May 18, 2008 at 3:22 a.m.
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You are very quite welcome.
Two of my stupid pet peeves are misspellings and grammatical errors.
-dave
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related links Posted by 245502 on May 18, 2008 at 3:47 a.m.
I would think you'd be more interested in the content of the post as opposed to checking for grammatical and spelling errors.
Oh..and btw.."very quite" welcome?
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related links Posted by 711521 on May 18, 2008 at 4:58 a.m.
Get over the critical pet peeves. Not all readers have the background you do Dave. You endup being very haughty and demeaning to those just attempting to simply express themselves.
I agree about people abusing the food stamp system. These people can eat steak all month long. I don't use food stamps and generally eat only one meal per day. I budget what I eat and purchase cheaper items frequently. Prices are rising and the easy street is running out. Get a job and take birth control! or better yet get neutered.
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related links Posted by 233751 on May 18, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.
The Lone Star card should have limitations on what it can purchase just like the WIC program. Staples like bread, milk, pasta, beans, veggies, certain cheeses and meats would be allowed. No cookies, sodas, chips, high end meats and cheeses. This would stop much of the abuse. Our system has the technology to do this now and no one is complaining about the WIC system, it works!
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related links Posted by 276111 on May 18, 2008 at 8:14 a.m.
I saw a couple buy groceries with a lone star card then loaded it up on a full dress Harley which cost at least $22,000 and was a newer model. Geez!!!! Shared prosperity at its finest. Darn democrats!!!!!
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related links Posted by 245313 on May 18, 2008 at 8:26 a.m.
I am so disheartened to read the comments posted here. So quick to judge, so quick to condemn, so quick to know it all. Must feel very proud of yourselves because everything YOU do is right....just because YOU do it means everyone else can or should. Get a grip people! I have some advice for you....if it upsets you to see the person in front of you in the grocery line using a Lone Star card, look the other way! Not all "poor" people are lazy, welfare cheating, abusers of the system....many have happened along something called LIFE! Instead of being so quick to condemn, try reaching out a helping hand. Truly, if this is how some of you really think, I pity the day for you that Jesus Christ comes back to this earth!
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related links Posted by 246009 on May 18, 2008 at 8:53 a.m.
The need to get J-O-B and stop making a way of life of all the freebies the government offers. There are plenty of jobs out there, it may not be "exactly" what you want to do but it's a job. You choose the path you want to go. Everyone has the same opportunity to succeed in life, IF they choose. Along with all the freebies are grants for a better education. Do something about it.
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related links Posted by 408032 on May 18, 2008 at 10:33 a.m.
There is nothing wrong with the food stamp program. To me that is just free money. The goverment takes my money in taxes and I just get it back in a lonestar card. My family has survived many decades on food stamps and will continue to survive for more years to come.
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related links Posted by 260556 on May 18, 2008 at 11:05 a.m.
I'm not about to bash all those food stamp recipients out there, BUT I am about to bash the ones who are receiving them by deceiving the system. I'm all for some people getting them when they are in need. (It doesn't matter how many kids or if you're a single parent ) BUt I've seen so many young ( late teens to early 40s) just so happy to be on the system. They are content for all the freebies they get. I know someone who receives about 300 a month (for one 2 yr old) PLus her 2 bdrm apt is only $50 a month. Not to mention a decreased rate for her electricity. This person is only 21yrs old. C'mon, at that age you're old enough to get a job and make a better life for yourself. (Did I mention since she's not married, she conveniently has her "working" boyfriend live with her and they have all of his income to spend on anything. This is the type of stuff that is WRONG!!! If the government increases the amount of food stamps, then they need to increase the minimum wage rate for ALL hard working individuals!!! What do ya'll think?
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related links Posted by 244675 on May 18, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
This is a classic vicious circle. The more people on welfare programs, the more difficult it is to introduce any sort of welfare reform. Most of these folks would probably never bother to vote unless it's against a candidate proposing government assistance limitations. I'm all for helping people get out of a tough situation; I was in a bad way after my now ex-wife racked up 10K in credit card debt behind my back then took off with no intention of paying any of it. It was a struggle, but I sacrificed and got through it without gov't assistance or destroying my credit, now I'm doing fine. Career welfare is inexcusable and those who practice it should be ashamed. This is supposed to be the land of opportunity, not the endless free lunch.
Oh, and the previous poster who said it was none of our business how many kids she/he has, business is defined as the transfer of funds for goods or services. If my funds (taxes) are used to help support children you can't afford, that makes it my business to a degree. If you don't rely on the gov't then have all the kids you want. Otherwise deal with the consequences on your own, especially the folks who continue to have more children while already on the dole.
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related links Posted by 234453 on May 18, 2008 at 12:04 p.m.
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And just how much have you paid in taxes as opposed to how much you scammed the government out of during those decades you are so proud of? You are a classic example of what is WRONG with the system!
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 18, 2008 at 1:49 p.m.
in response to 454522
If you are receiving federal assistance - Medicaid to deliver the baby and get prenatal care, WIC, Lone Star Card then I hate to burst your bubble it is MY business, no let me correct myself it is EVERYONE's business how many children you have.
If you receive no assistance, be my guest and pop those puppies out. Otherwise get your tubes tied, get some job training and get a job so you and others like you can be SELF-SUFFICIENT and hopefully stop the "cycle" of poverty your children will be repeating.
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related links Posted by 463408 on May 18, 2008 at 2:05 p.m.
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Food stamp program is NOT free, you are abusing taxpayer dollars... and I doubt you contributed into the "system" more than you are taking out.
Lone Star is supposed to be TEMPORARY-- not a way of life. If you were surviving, you would not need the Lone Star card, you would be "surviving" on your own.. but losers like you will continue to drain the "system" and people that really need it get the bad rap.
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related links Posted by 233913 on May 18, 2008 at 2:19 p.m.
We could hire a bunch of retiree's to work part time for the government to supplement their social security ... and there only job would be to do investigative work on every food stamp and welfare recipient to see, what kind of car do they own, what have they purchased over the time period that they have been on welfare and handouts, who are they really living with - is there an income earner living in their home.... did they use the food stamps or sell them for cash to that Harley person.. so they could buy cigarettes and beer?... and if the answer is that they are an abusive, bottom feeder... living off our tax dollars while making no effort to be responsible for themselves... then cut them off. It would be money well spent.
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related links Posted by 699932 on May 18, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.
My income is close to 45K yearly- My daughter and I eat Banquete meals and Ramen Soup and we use tuna quite frequently. My daughter and I eat out either Friday or Saturday to rest from homecooked meals. Sunday we start all over again with simple foods and we eat out of napkins most times. My water bill doesnt shock me anymore. I like expensive clothing and expensive shoes and jewelry and I have a love for my expensive vehicle(paid in full). My daughter makes excellent grades all year so with her allowance she saves it for whatever she desires, which is Rock N Roll band t-shirts.
We have never ever asked for any governent handouts whatsoever and quite frankly- most of these people who are receiving food stamp vouchers I would like to think the great majority do temporary.For those who use the system and live off the government are those who are apparently lazy and have never been caught. The last time I ate steak was about three weeks ago! Lobster- whats that? My daughter and I survive just fine without expensive meals.My grocery bill makes me smile! Anyone need lessons on how to stretch a buck? Let me know, I have tons of reciepes ( providing you like tuna that is) lol
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 6:19 p.m.
Yeah right you got the idea,
"We could hire a bunch of retiree's to work part time for the government to supplement their social security ... and their only job would be to do investigative work on every Corporate Executive and Corporate Welfare recipient to see what kind of Boards they sit on, what kind of Property they own, what kind of Property their family owns and when and where in the hell did they get that crystal ball from? How many grants and non competing contracts have they received and the commonality amongst them all. Lets not forget the business expenses and the petty cash. What have they purchased over the time period that they have been on Corporate Welfare and / or receiving Government Contracts, Non competing "Business" handouts, What is the actual value of their home (not the appraised one), is their property tax appropriate for the actual value of their home, who are they really sleeping with - .... did they abuse or peddle their influence or for undisclosed amounts of cash under the table? How many times government grants included or paid for whiskey and women? And if the answer is that they are an abusive, bottom feeder... living off our tax dollars while making no effort to be responsible for themselves... then fine the heck out of them. It would be money well spent."
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related links Posted by 711504 on May 18, 2008 at 7:06 p.m.
I wish that I had $312 a month of FREE food for my family!
I struggle to pay my taxes, earn a living and get by on about $175 a month of food for a family of four. Thank God for Angel Food!
I really have NO SYMPATHY for those welfare addicts who milk the government for as many handouts as Barack Hussein Obama and his wicked racist minions will give in exchange for votes!
If you want to eat more -- GET A JOB!!!!
Oh wait...welfare recipients eat better than most teachers!!!!
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 7:31 p.m.
Go wait in the lines, go through the application specificities, allow yourself to be jerked around by the program administration and then comeback and tell us how lucrative & "free" the Welfare Program is.
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 18, 2008 at 10:40 p.m.
Why be a teacher if you have this bias against people who are "welfare" addicts as you claim?
It is teachers like you who have no intention of allowing a "welfare" student to succeed.
What kind of teacher are you?
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 18, 2008 at 11:52 p.m.
I wondered how many participants in the Buc parade this year use the Lone Star card. Especially the low rider cars with the girls up front and the kid(s) on their lap. I couldn't help but shake my head in disgust. Your tax dollars that provide free grocery money in the form of Lone Star cards, medical and dental insurance (Medi-caid) and WIC also probably helped provide those daddies all the cash they needed to pimp their rides.....
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related links Posted by 295476 on May 19, 2008 at 12:46 a.m.
All you fretting about what others got, know that the insurance company that charges you for health insurance is subsidized by the poor people.
Look it up.
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related links Posted by 233913 on May 19, 2008 at 6:37 a.m.
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Something about that post just feels abit arrogant. It takes alot of money to trick out one of those cars - and I wouldn't just naturally jump to the conclusion that therefore, somehow, they are welfare recipients. This is like assuming that all those good ole boys in those huge trucks with the giant lifts are trailer park trash and abusing the system so that they can afford the gas for their monster trucks... or that the only women riding Harley's are hoochie mamas.... stereotyping is kind of a nasty business....
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related links Posted by 240593 on May 19, 2008 at 10:17 a.m.
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well then, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned one I found in the article.... clearly there are not any food PANTIES!!
But even as demand is rising, many food panties nationwide have been forced to cut back on the amount of food given to individual families because higher fuel costs and commodity prices have sliced into private donations to the pantries, Daly and others say.
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 19, 2008 at 10:24 a.m.
WOW, I am truly dissappointed in almost all of the comments on here from ignorant arogant people. Let me tell you a little story... My mother at the age of 38 became a single mother with me, it wouldn't have been so if my father hadn't turned into an abusive alcoholic. So she and I left him (more like fled) and she got onto welfare and food stamps TEMPORARILY. It took about 2 years, but she went back to school WHILE WORKING PART TIME and got her nursing license. IMMEDIATELY when she found a job she moved us out of government housing, off of any government help, and now she is making about 60k a year. That is what these programs were designed to do, be a helping hand UP not OUT. Now let me tell you another little story, ... here I am, I've been working since I was 15 to help her out, moved out when I was 18, joined the Air Force after graduating the top of my class in high school, came back and went to college, and got a great job at a local company making almost $13 an hour. I fell in love and got married to a wonderful man who has a higher education and a good job. Now, here we are, expecting our first child, and all of a sudden we both get laid off from our jobs. Mine, because I am pregnant and my job is hazardous, I was put on unpaid leave, and my husband's company just lost business and had to make cuts. Now, what are we to do when we go from making well over 60k a year to NOTHING through no fault of our own? We both are very respectable intelligent hard working tax paying citizens who have both worked since our young teens and paid into the system, and we have rent due, electricity due, food to buy, etc. Are you telling me that we have no right to ask for TEMPORARY help that not only have we earned but desparately NEED? Is my unborn child supposed to starve to death inside me just because people like you will look at me and judge and think I'm just another lazy single mother with 3 kids from 3 different fathers? Maybe you should think about what if YOU lost your job and couldn't feed your family? My husband and I are very actively searching for a job, BOTH of us, even me while being pregnant. As soon as we find employment and get back on our feet, then of course we are going to get off of government help, but until then we have no choice. I lost my health insurance and need prenatal care for my baby, so yes I am on Medicaid. Yes, I am on Wic too, so what? And yes, we qualify for food stamps too. We thank GOD for this help because without it we have no idea what we would do. You all should not be so quick to judge, there ARE good honest people that use the system in times of emergency, people who are not lazy, just unfortunate for the mean time. I pray to GOD that you all don't have to go through what we are going through, but one day you might and you'll be eating your words.
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 19, 2008 at 10:40 a.m.
And by the way, I DO agree that the system is greatly abused at times. I am not naive, I am not blind, I do see some of the women in the HHSC office with me who are the typical recipient of government assistance - the ones who dropped out of high school, the girls who choose not to work, but instead have children and look at their babies as though they were paychecks. It used to upset me, my tax dollars being wasted on these low lifes. BUT, I also see the elderly women and men in the office, I see the disabled who need our help, and I see other wives and husbands together in there with their beautiful children and I hear their troubles. These are the people who did not choose the situation that they are in, they need our help. When it finally happened to me is when I realized that there are some very deserving citizens who sometimes need assistance, who are we (and YOU) to judge them or deny them food when they are starving or medical assistance to an innocent baby or unborn child?
And by the way Post 237092, my husband and I do not have fancy cars, we each have an old 4 door compact car with hub caps and scratched up paint jobs. Don't be so quick to stereotype.
Thank you, Post 245313 on May 18, 2008 at 8:26 a.m.
"I am so disheartened to read the comments posted here. So quick to judge, so quick to condemn, so quick to know it all. Must feel very proud of yourselves because everything YOU do is right....just because YOU do it means everyone else can or should. Get a grip people! I have some advice for you....if it upsets you to see the person in front of you in the grocery line using a Lone Star card, look the other way! Not all "poor" people are lazy, welfare cheating, abusers of the system....many have happened along something called LIFE! Instead of being so quick to condemn, try reaching out a helping hand. Truly, if this is how some of you really think, I pity the day for you that Jesus Christ comes back to this earth!"
Thank you, I say "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED".
And, Post 233751 on May 18, 2008 at 7:10 a.m.
"The Lone Star card should have limitations on what it can purchase just like the WIC program. Staples like bread, milk, pasta, beans, veggies, certain cheeses and meats would be allowed. No cookies, sodas, chips, high end meats and cheeses. This would stop much of the abuse. Our system has the technology to do this now and no one is complaining about the WIC system, it works!"
I completely agree with you, and I'm about to receive food stamps. I have absolutely no problem with the gov't telling me to only buy healthy low cost food, it's what I'm planning to do anyways. I don't plan on buying steaks and ribs, etc.
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related links Posted by 252472 on May 19, 2008 at 11 a.m.
I totally agree with you post #699955, when you do lose your job and go from making 60k for a year to hardly anything YOU and YOUR FAMILY DESERVE the help. But since there are many people out there who are able to work and lead productive lives they are choosing the easy way out..... being lazy relying on the government to assit them. They don't understand that it is government assistance which means that it is there to help them out on a temporary basis not to utilize forever. My husband and I work very hard for what we have and we do make decent money and once in awhile we would like to eat a steak or two but we only do it when we have the extra money to buy the steaks. It just urks me when I go to the grocery store and I have to be careful not to overspend and then I see people who whip out the lone star card and pay for their items which consist of junk food and stuff that is not even healthy or even buying steaks or very expensive meats.
And they are carrying the latest designer handbag and wearing nice shoes and clothes.....now come on what is wrong with that picture. Where is the help for the middle class family that works hard, has to limit their spending because of the high cost of gas and food??? I am a firm believer of working hard for what you need and want and if I have to I will probably end up getting a second job sometime soon so I can have enough money to pay for items that we need....like gas, food and other necessities. I am sick and tired of people taking advantage of the system that is there to utilize on a temporary basis.
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related links Posted by 247805 on May 19, 2008 at 12:17 p.m.
I'm also tired of the bums. I use to have more compassion for them but the truth is that most just won't work. They have a ton of excuses why they can't work but they're just lazy or incompetent. The working people most certainly have a right to be mad. Many worked hard to get through college only to scrape by. I hate bums.
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related links Posted by 246009 on May 19, 2008 at 3:01 p.m.
Clue #1 to AID for a few months...Not a few years!
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related links Posted by 383451 on May 19, 2008 at 5:13 p.m.
A 23 YEAR OLD? There is no excuse for this young person to NOT have a JOB. I could completely understand if this were a disabled or elderly person--but come on!!! There are such things as daycare and the government even helps pay for that too!! I love seeing all the families with Medicaid, WIC and food stamps and then seeing thier mommies with lovely Dooney and Bourke, Coach purses and the dads with clothes that you know cost some serious money. There is nothing wrong with help when you need it but all these young people sucking it up when they can get a job is making it harder and harder for people who honestly need it impossible. SICKENING, SICKENING, SICKENING!!!
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 19, 2008 at 11:08 p.m.
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Well thank you, it's nice to know that someone out there understands what we're going through. I personally have never owned a purse or pair of shoes that cost more than $20, and my clothes happen to all be at least 4 or 5 years old. When I do actually get to buy a new outfit, I buy a $20 complete outfit at Walmart or Target. The only real jewelry I have is my wedding band and engagement ring, along with some costume earrings, and I have never had my nails or my hair done. As far as the food goes, when we do receive the Lonestar, we already have a list of very healthy low cost foods that we are going to buy to not only make the money go further and the food last longer, but also to take care of ourselves healthwise. And steaks, ribs, & expensive meals are not on that list at all. I think my only "splurge" might be getting the good Simply Orange not from concentrate orange juice for once instead of the HEB brand. Oooo, an extra dollar! lol Other than that, the HEB brand will do just fine for everything else, but their OJ tastes like crap. Oh, and don't get me started on gas! Since we're both searching for work a couple hours every single day (more like from 8am until businesses close around 5) gas is killing us! We're going to run out of gas money before we even find a job to earn more money for gas to get to the job! Still don't even know how we're going to pay rent for June...
So to everyone out there, everything is not always what it seems. You may see me checking out at HEB with a full shopping cart (but of HEALTHY food) and think , oh another young single mother-to-be living off of our taxes, WELL THINK AGAIN. I'm a very happily MARRIED, college graduate, intelligent, respectable, hard-working member of society who just got laid off for planning a family. I found out too late after we already conceived that my company wanted me to choose between having a career or having a family. And my husband is also a college graduate, who also had a good paying job but got laid off due to no fault of his own either. So here we are, without any choice but to ask for TEMPORARY assistance until we get back on our feet. And guess what, there ARE others like us out there on WIC, Medicaid, and food stamps who use it for the right reasons and actually do pick ourselves up and move on with our lives off of government assistance. Oh, and by the way, we both have accomplished all of our successes by the age of 23, which is both our current ages as of today. So post #383451, there's your reason why a 23 year old might not have a job, have you ever thought to think maybe she lost it?
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related links Posted by 247805 on May 20, 2008 at 8:37 a.m.
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I got laid off at 23 myself and didn't need any help (and didn't get any). I parked cars and did odd jobs until I got another full time job. No offense but why don't you move to Houston or Dallas like all the other graduates who leave Corpus to find jobs? You got the degrees, you will enjoy getting paid. And you won't have to justify anything you buy to anyone. Also, most of the anger here is directed toward full time bums (people that take advantage of the system). If you are what you say you are, many people can understand. However, honestly, I'm wondering why you still have internet access if you need help with buying food? That is fishy.
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 20, 2008 at 11:31 a.m.
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Wow, you really are ignorant. I have no need to justify anything to anyone, I'm trying to make some people (idiots like you) understand that not everyone is the same. First of all, we both just got laid off in the same week, and I'm PREGNANT YOU DUMB***! No offense? I DO take offense because you're so narrowminded and arrogant, you think it's so easy for a pregnant woman to walk into a place and apply for a job. I've already done that, and had a few interviews too, guess what moron - not too many employers are willing to hire a pregnant lady because they know I will have a lot of doctor's appointments coming up and will have to take a few weeks off when the baby is born. And my husband, not that it is any of your business, is just having a difficult time landing another job. It's only been a few weeks you slow-witted imbecile, not months or years, we just barely lost our jobs. And he IS doing odd side jobs to try to help out with everything. And P.S., my unborn child NEEDS proper nutrition and ESPECIALLY PRENATAL MEDICAL CARE which is why I am on Medicaid. Even if I get another full time job right now, I won't be eligible for health insurance for another 3 months, by then my baby will be almost born, how am I to pay for all that out of pocket? Exactly. You should think before you speak, if it isn't too difficult for you. I feel so sorry for nitwits like you who get off on getting on here on the Caller times and bashing people you don't even know to make yourself feel better, you must be a very sad pathetic lonely person who has nothing better to do. You're probably one of those pathetic losers who have a fake myspace account and browse through strangers' profiles and create all the drama on that site. No wonder you feel so comfortable on here, it's anonymous and you're a chicken-s***. And not that it is any of your business either, but I am actually at my mother's house, using HER computer, and HER internet access to look for jobs. I'm on here to check the jobs section but this article peaked my interest. So stop ASSuming, you only make an A** out of yourself. (And even if we did have internet access, remember, we JUST lost our jobs, duh, and my mom only pays $15 a month for her internet anyways) Now why don't you take your sorry butt to work and do something productive with your piteous life? (Oh, and sorry if I'm using too many big words for your small dense brain to understand).
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related links Posted by 247805 on May 20, 2008 at 12:13 p.m.
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Wow, I really pissed you off. I didn't mean to but I was just saying that there are jobs outside of Corpus and that it might be worth it to check it out (obviously after you've had your baby....) Corpus pay is low compared to other areas and there are not very many opportunities here. You must have noticed that in your job search. However, young lady, you didn't have to resort to name calling and belittling. You are obviously very angry at your situation (and at myself). Things will get better. Just drop that attitude off at the door at your next job interview.
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related links Posted by 383451 on May 20, 2008 at 3:22 p.m.
Hey # 247805-no need for apology. 699955 has a huge chip on the shoulder and just unleashed what seems like years of bitterness because of one comment. Maybe its that pottymouth that is blocking that "next job".
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related links Posted by 286276 on May 20, 2008 at 4:27 p.m.
I love reading all the drama, stereotyping and narrow-mindedness in these blogs!! Wheee! Who needs cable tv?
Ok, all jokes aside, I can empathize with the folks who receive assistance in a legitimate manner and these folks are probably in the minority. It's unfortunate that a system that is supposed to temporarily help people while they get back on their feet is abused by so many who look at it as an entitlement. I have had to be in the system after I divorced an abusive man..I had two small ones to care for and my then job as a hairdresser in a commission only shop was not helping me make ends meet. I endured the hostile looks I received from other patrons in the store when I whipped out the food stamps to buy food for my little family. I endured the inaccurate assumption by my caseworker but put her quickly (and loudly I might add) in check when she asked if I even knew who the father of my children were. (I had to produce a copy of my divorce decree at the initial interview, duuuhhh, which I reminded her of..)Anyway, I guess what I am getting at is that people are fed up with, me included, those that abuse the system. I was disgusted seeing these individuals moving into the housing complex in which I lived with just one or two kids..next thing you know here comes the bf, and/or other family members who had no business being there. Made me sick to my stomach.
Anyway, I will not, however, be quick to judge a book by its cover. It is not my place to judge nor condemn..I have a saying when people come to me for or with gossip.."I can only tell my story as I am the one living it; I cannot tell another's."
Thank you for sharing #699955..I can hear the anger in your last post towards the other, but it is misdirected. People, being what they are, will continue to pass judgement, gossip and criticize..don't know why we do it but we do! As long as I know I am doing the best that I can with whatever circumstances I am in, that is good enough for me and to heck with everyone else. When it all comes down to the end and we are 6ft. under, is it really going to matter what anyone thinks of us? As long as my family is healthy, safe and content, I am successful.
Ok, soapbox has been dusted off for another recipient..LOL
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related links Posted by 286276 on May 20, 2008 at 4:28 p.m.
Oh, I know this may not go over well, but I worked for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for a long time to support my little family. They have great benefits and pay a decent wage...not what you are accustomed to mind you, but decent enough. The job sux, is stressful as all he**, but it paid my bills and provided the 3 of us with health, dental, vision, life and a 401K. There is a hiring bonus of $1,500 for new correctional officers. It is worth a look..and there is the new prison in Robstown for which I am applying..shorter drive than Beeville.
Good luck, 699955. Please, do not take offense to my comments, after all, I am an anonymous poster in cyberspace. Jennifer is my name and I am 43. Glad to know ya!
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 20, 2008 at 7:05 p.m.
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First of all, 247805 didn't exactly apologize, in fact that person instigated and sterotyped me for no reason, and I had never said nor done anything to him/her to give them a reason to come at me like they did. And guess what, I only treat people the way that they treat me, you really should read between the lines, I felt verbally attacked and reacted in such a manner. I don't apologize for it one bit, in fact, I am glad I did share what has happened to me and how I feel about being stereo-typed so that others can open their minds up a little and not see everything in black and white. So obviously to everyone who treats me with respect, I in turn treat them with respect. For example, me not finding a job has nothing to do with my "attitude" because I don't have one until someone decides to have one with me. AND FYI, today I did get hired somewhere and I'm very happy about it. It's half of what I was making before, but I don't care because right now a job is a job. My husband also has an interview tomorrow. So it looks like we won't be needing assistance (except Medicaid until the baby is born) afterall. Thanks for your wonderful false insight into my life filled with years of bitterness, LOL. I actually happen to be a very easy going happy person with a great life, but I am very strong minded and opinionated like everyone else on this blog.
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 20, 2008 at 7:15 p.m.
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Okay, I thought about it...
You know what, you're absolutely right, I should not have resorted to name calling, and you're 100% right that Corpus Christi's job market is not exactly filled with exceptional opportunities. There are personal reasons, however, that my husband and I are unable to relocate out of CC at this time, our parents aren't doing very well health-wise and we want to spend as much time with them while we still can. You were right too, things did get better, today actually. But please, all I ask is next time you feel the urge to critisize a complete stranger without knowing anything about them or their situation, just imagine how you would feel if it was done to you. Thanks :)
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 20, 2008 at 7:22 p.m.
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Thank you Jennifer for your words of wisdom (seriously, I'm not being sarcastic). And thank you for the tip on the new prison, I actually already found employment as of today, but if my husband's interview doesn't go so well tomorrow I'll tell him to try it out.
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related links Posted by 247805 on May 21, 2008 at 8:25 a.m.
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I didn't exactly stereotype you as well. I wrote one post that merely questioned the use of a computer. That was only because I don't have one at my home (don't like to pay for them, fix them, and pay for monthly service). If that is an attack, you have thin skin and will have to get tougher in this world. I'm glad you found a job and I wish the best for you and your growing family.
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 21, 2008 at 11:28 a.m.
699955
Good to know you found a job. Sorry you felt to attacked and judged by some of us. I think most of us were referring to the people that ABUSE the system and make it a way of life. Not people like you and your husband who through no fault of your own ended up needing help but with no plan to make it your way of life.
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related links Posted by 400275 on May 21, 2008 at 12:38 p.m.
those people need to work like me,i had 3 kids,was on my own and started working and made it though. please give me a break from supporting all those lazy people.
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related links Posted by 286276 on May 21, 2008 at 5:33 p.m.
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You are welcome and congratulations on your job! Hope your hubby has good luck too! Don't let these anonymous posters get at ya....it's remarkable how normally civilized, courteous and polite folks turn into raging, ranting crazy people online! LOL I guess it is just one's way to vent out frustrations with day to day living.
Congrats again with the job as well as the coming addition to your family! Children, frustrating as they can be (adolesence comes to mind) are a wonderful gift and make us humble.
Jen
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related links Posted by 286276 on May 21, 2008 at 5:42 p.m.
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"However, honestly, I'm wondering why you still have internet access if you need help with buying food? That is fishy."
This is an assumption about internet access...one can access the internet through various avenues ie: the library, a friend's house as well as the Worksource. Just a thought before you accuse or assume...
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 21, 2008 at 8:14 p.m.
Thank you everyone (Jen & 237092 and even 247805), things seem to be looking up. We're just going to concentrate on working our way off of any help at all. By the time our baby's born we won't need Medicaid anymore either (well, hopefully we can afford the health insurance through one of our companies, but we won't find out for another 3 months or so). You know, it really is a shame thinking about it, we might not be able to afford health insurance but won't qualify anymore for Medicaid after the baby is born. And what's sad is that that's the way it is for many families when health insurance for a family can run around $400-600 a month (even through an employer) unless you're extremely lucky and work for a government agency or a company with great health benefits. And, on our own without an employer paying part of it, COBRA wanted us to pay around $1100 a MONTH! Yikes!
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related links Posted by 237092 on May 21, 2008 at 10:28 p.m.
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I don't live in CC anymore but is there such a program called CHIPS? or is that for older kids? I thought it was a low cost insurance for people that do not qualify for medi-caid but I am not sure. Well good luck to you and your husband and keep the stress down, it isn't good for the baby. :)
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related links Posted by 699955 on May 22, 2008 at 7:26 a.m.
Thanks 237092, CHIPS does still have income eligibility requirements though, but it's worth a try. However, it's only for the children, which although that's all that really matters to us is keeping the baby healthy, we need health insurance as well to stay healthy and not get the baby sick. But, maybe each of us can get individual health insurance through our employers and have our child on CHIPS. Hmm, looks like there's hope. Thanks a lot!
(And thanks, I really should try to just relax, but sometimes I just get so emotional, lol. Last night I cried because my hubby was so sweet to get up and get me orange juice when I was thirsty!)
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related links Posted by 383451 on May 22, 2008 at 4:47 p.m.
To anyone who is interested:
A family of four with an income level of less than 20K may/can be eligible for their children to be coverned with Medicaid.
OR
A family of four with an income level of more than 20K but LESS than 40K may/can be eligible for CHIPS.
The difference between Medicaid and CHIPS is that Medicaid is supposed to be reserved for those families that truly are impoverished and CHIPS is the next step if you are not truly impoverished but yet still don't make enough money to cover conventional insurance. You can go to the google the texas department of health and human services and find your way around to download applications or get more information.
699955.......things are tough for everyone right now.........glad to hear you got a job.
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related links Posted by 236920 on May 24, 2008 at 1:15 a.m.
For 699955, thank you for sharing your story, I wish you and your husband the best of luck and may he find a good job to hold both of you while you wait to have your baby. I do agree with you, there are times when people just need assistance of some kind and that is what the government programs are out there for, but some or should I say alot of people abuse of the system. And this is nothing new. People will always try to abuse of something good. I worked with a company that had a hard time finding people to work overtime because most of the employees were in some kind of assistance program and if they earned more than allowed, they had to report it and the food stamps would be reduced..so they would ONLY work their 40 hours..nothing past that, isn't that ignorant? I was always wanting to work OT but was not allowed. Thank you and best of luck to both of you.
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